Oh, and Tapestry too
Tapestry is inspired by WebObjects, but without the 'obscene memory footprint'. 
It's something I definitely plan to look into, especially since they've got some tie-in with Eclipse now.
From the sounds of things I'll probably like that better than JavaServer Faces or Struts. We shall see! 
JavaServer Faces early access
java.sun.com: JavaServer Faces
I've been waiting for this for quite a while. At first their goals sounded like they were trying to implement the WebObjects (HTML) framework for JSP. Now people are saying it reminds them of ASP.NET, which I noticed tries hard to do WebObjects-like things.
And the timing of this specification/API publication is very interesting and very appreciated. I've been learning Servlets, JDBC and JSP this week. I've been keeping private notes, and in them you'll find the words 'crap', 'weak', 'poorly designed', and 'yikes' quite a few times. Hopefully JavaServer Faces will make this technology a lot more productive.
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