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OPML sucks the big one

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Posted
4/25/2001; 1:10 PM by Jim Roepcke
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4/25/2001; 1:18 PM by Jim Roepcke
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Regarding Dave Winer's rant about OmniOutliner and supposed "open formats" (*cough* bullshit *cough*) etc...

Dave is full of shit. I get so frustrated when I see him spouting off this crap to his readers (of which some tend to just lap up whatever he says as some kind of truism).

That said, the outliner I started working on last September (and dropped when I got too busy) and started working on again this week will support OPML, but not because it's "open" or "a perfect solution for interchange between programs that understand textual hierarchies", but because I want it to be able to read Radio's outlines. Last August UserLand got me excited about the idea of the "world outline", and then failed to deliver on the scale I was expecting. So I'll have to do it myself.

Show me another actual desktop Outlining application shipping for Mac or Windows that read/writes OPML. Until another app does, OPML is just as proprietary as anything else.

Ironically, my app, should it ever be released, will probably be the first app other than Radio to understand OPML (unless Omni spends a few minutes and makes OOutliner read them), and thus be the app to validate Dave's claim that OPML is open.

OmniOutliner's format is human readable, meaning it's just as open as Dave's "standard". (You know the great thing about standards right, everyone's got one)

Dave's just pissed off that his outliner wasn't the first one and that he's got very strong competition, so he's FUD'ing. Now if/when Radio ever ships for OS X, he can't say it was the first outliner for OS X, which I'm sure he was hoping to do, and heck, he'll probably do it anyway.

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RE: OPML sucks the big one ( 4/25/2001 by Jim Roepcke )
Earlier today I ranted about a rant on today's Scripting News. Thanks to some

RE: OPML sucks the big one ( 4/25/2001 by David Adams )
I tend to agree with Jim's assessment of the situation. Late last summer, Dave


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